Kids Bed — Questions & Answers
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Is European furniture worth it in Singapore?
European pieces score on joinery and finishes, but the freight premium often pushes a single sofa past S$4,000. For humid Singapore, check whether the maker uses marine-grade plywood and kiln-dried solid timber — cheaper builds absorb moisture and warp at the joints within two years. A local brand with European design DNA and a shorter shipping route often gives you 80 percent of the look at half the price.
Champagne cherry wood queen bed, what colour sheets go with it?
Champagne cherry wood has warm red-amber undertones, so lean into soft white, dusty sage, or muted terracotta linen to balance the warmth. Avoid cool grey sheets — they clash with the pink in the grain and make the room feel flat. In a Tampines flat with afternoon sun, a white cotton quilt reflects light and stops the cherry from looking orange. Add one brass lamp to echo the wood's warmth.
Best paint colour to pair with a light oak kids bed?
Light oak sits in the warm-neutral zone, so the wall colour should not fight it. Dulux Olive Sprig 50YY 55/164 or Jotun Soft Vanilla 1626 are popular choices in Singapore condos because they add warmth without yellowing under LED lighting. For a cooler look in a Jurong north-facing room, try a soft putty grey like Nippon NP OW 1003P. Always test a 1 m patch on two walls before committing to a full can.
What curtain colour works with a Scandi kids bed?
Scandi kids beds in light oak or ash pair best with curtains in bone white, oatmeal, or a very pale sage — colours that echo the wood without competing. Avoid heavy jewel tones or dark navy in a small bedroom, since they absorb the daylight we rely on. A linen-look polyester at 140 cm wide works well for HDB windows, and you can double up with a blackout lining for afternoon nap time.
What style of kids bed suits a modern Malaysian condo look?
A modern Malaysian condo leans on light timber, woven rattan, and clean lines, so a low-profile solid wood bed in natural oak or white-washed ash fits the bill. Skip heavy ornate headboards — they fight the breezy look. Pair with a jute rug and a single monstera plant in a ceramic pot. Many BTO flats in Punggol and Sengkang now copy this palette, and the style ages well as your child grows.
Space saving bed for study, what works in a small Singapore bedroom?
A loft bed with a 120 cm desk underneath frees up about 1.5 sqm compared to a separate bed and desk — enough for a reading corner in a typical 4-room HDB. Check the under-bed clearance is at least 130 cm so your child can sit upright without hitting the frame. Models with built-in shelving along the headboard save even more space. Look for a desk height of 72 cm for ergonomic chair use.
Nordic desk USA shoppers recommend, is it different in Singapore?
Nordic desks popular with USA buyers, like the IKEA MICKE or West Elm Mid-Century Modular, focus on cable management and slim legs that suit small apartments. The dimensions translate fine to a Singapore HDB study nook — typically 120 cm x 60 cm — but the particleboard core does not love our 80 percent humidity. Pick a version with a melamine face or sealed edges, or upgrade to a solid ash top to prevent swelling at the corners.
How do I stop mould on a wooden kids bed in Bedok?
Wipe the bed weekly with a slightly damp microfibre cloth, then dry it immediately — standing water is the main cause of mould and warranty claims. Keep relative humidity below 65 percent with a small dehumidifier that runs on a hygrometer. Air the bedroom for 15 minutes every morning, and avoid pushing the bed flush against the wall. Leave a 3 cm gap behind the headboard so air can circulate and dry hidden damp spots.
Where can I view a kids bed in Singapore before buying?
Most online furniture sellers do not have a walk-in showroom, so the next best option is to request material swatches and a sample of the finish. MIDHILL, a Foshan solid wood maker since 2008, runs a Lecong showroom by appointment and can share batch inspection photos for your order. Local Singapore stockists like Castlery, Grafunkt, and HipVan let you feel fabric and test drawer slides before committing to a single bed at S$599 to S$1,200.
What age is a house bed suitable for?
A house bed — that low frame with a canopy outline on top — works from about 18 months to 6 years. The floor-level mattress means there is no fall risk, which matters for toddlers still rolling in their sleep. Pick a model with rounded pine slats and a non-toxic water-based finish, since younger children chew the rails. Most parents move their child to a regular single bed around age 5 or 6 when they outgrow the 140 cm length.
How wide is a standard HDB bedroom door, will a flat-pack bed fit?
A standard HDB bedroom door is about 80 cm wide and 2 m tall, which fits most flat-pack single and super single beds once the box is tilted diagonally. Queen and king frames usually ship in two cartons so they pass through. Measure the corridor turn too — some older blocks in Queenstown and Tiong Bahru have tight L-shaped landings. If the box is bigger than 30 cm wide, check the lift cart dimensions before booking delivery.
What mattress thickness works with a kids house bed?
A house bed has a low profile frame, so the mattress should sit at 12 cm to 15 cm thick — any taller and your child climbs out too easily, defeating the safety point. A medium-firm pocket spring or high-density foam at 14 cm is the sweet spot for a 2 to 5 year old. Make sure the mattress matches the inner frame size exactly, usually 140 cm x 70 cm, or gaps along the edge become a finger trap.
Best rug size to place under a kids bed in a condo?
Aim for a rug that extends at least 60 cm beyond the bed on the open sides so your child lands on softness instead of cold tile. A 200 cm x 140 cm rug works under a single bed in most Singapore condos. Pick a low-pile wool or cotton weave — high-pile shags trap humidity and grow mould in our climate. Anti-slip rug pads are mandatory on laminate flooring to prevent the bed from sliding.
Should I buy a kids bed with storage drawers in Tampines?
Storage drawers underneath work well in Tampines HDB flats where built-in wardrobes are often shallow. Look for three full-width drawers on smooth glides, not four narrow ones, since small hands struggle with tiny handles. Make sure the drawer faces use a different finish system than the vertical panels — high-touch horizontals need cross-linked polyurethane to resist scuffing. Allow 5 cm clearance on each side so drawers open without scraping the wall.
How long does delivery take for a kids bed to Jurong?
Local Singapore stockists typically deliver within 5 to 10 working days for ready-stock kids beds. For custom or imported solid wood orders, allow 6 to 10 weeks sea freight from Foshan, plus 2 weeks for the mould-controlled crating and desiccant packing. MIDHILL uses low-moisture crate timber and a vapour barrier matched to cargo volume to prevent the swelling issues most Jurong west-side customers fear during the December monsoon season.
Is a convertible cot-to-bed worth the extra cost?
A convertible cot-to-bed runs S$350 to S$700 in Singapore, roughly double a standard cot, but it stretches from birth to age 5 instead of just age 2. The savings on a second bed and mattress add up to about S$400, so the math works out even before you count the hassle of selling used furniture. Look for models where the conversion uses the same side panels — swapping parts is where most warranty claims start.
What should I buy first when furnishing a kids bedroom in Singapore?
Start with the bed and mattress, then the wardrobe, then the desk — that order lets you measure each piece against actual wall lengths rather than guesses. A single bed at 190 cm x 90 cm and a 120 cm wide wardrobe leave 80 cm of walkway in a typical HDB bedroom. Buy the rug and curtains last, since their sizes depend on the final furniture layout and the direction of natural light from the window.
Common pairing mistakes with a Scandi kids bed?
The biggest mistake is adding too many warm wood tones — a Scandi bed in light oak already brings warmth, so layering a teak console and a walnut shelf overwhelms the room. Stick to one wood tone and bring in texture through linen, wool, or rattan instead. Another error is choosing cool grey paint that fights the oak's yellow undertone. A soft white or muted green wall lets the bed breathe and ages better as your child grows.
What floor lamp works next to a low kids bed?
A floor lamp at 120 cm to 130 cm total height sits about 20 cm above a low kids bed headboard, which keeps the bulb out of reach but throws light onto the mattress. Pick a shade diameter of 25 cm to 30 cm for a soft pool of light without glare. A warm 2700K LED bulb flatters wood finishes, and a marble or weighted base prevents tipping if a toddler grabs the shade. Avoid arc lamps that overhang the bed.
What size kids bed fits through a HDB corridor in Tampines without scratching the door frame?
For a standard 4-room HDB in Tampines, the corridor bend is roughly 1.2 m wide and 2.1 m tall, and the bedroom door is about 0.9 m. A flat-packed single kids bed under 100 cm wide in its longest panel, or any disassembled frame under 195 cm x 60 cm, will clear safely. MIDHILL ships export-crated flat-pack; request the panel dimensions before the delivery driver arrives to avoid a re-delivery fee of around SGD 35.
Is solid wood kids bed safe for Singapore humidity, or will it warp in a Bedok condo?
Solid wood breathes, so in an air-conditioned Bedok condo at 24 to 26 degrees with RH around 55 to 65 percent, a properly kiln-dried oak or beech frame stays stable. Keep the bed 15 cm off the wall to let air circulate, and never place it directly under the air-con drip line. Wipe spills within 10 minutes and dry the surface; standing water on end-grain edges is the fastest way to raise a joint.
Where can I view a kids bed in Singapore before I pay a deposit?
Most online solid-wood sellers only show catalogues, so the safe route is to book a showroom visit two working days ahead. MIDHILL's Lecong (Foshan) showroom works by appointment, and Singapore buyers who send a dimension schedule of their Jurong or Punggol flat usually leave with a specification sheet. For local viewing, ask the seller for a customer reference address in Singapore, never just a website photo.
What's the best kids bed height for a Punggol EC with low ceilings?
In Punggol EC flats the floor-to-ceiling height is usually 2.6 to 2.7 m, so a low-profile kids bed frame under 35 cm tall keeps the room visually open. Avoid bulky headboards above 90 cm back height, they eat vertical space and clash with the air-con ledge. Pair the low bed with a 120 cm x 60 cm wardrobe rather than a 150 cm wide one to preserve a 50 cm walking corridor.
Will a European walnut kids bed arrive mouldy after sea freight to Singapore?
Mould is a packaging problem, not a wood problem. MIDHILL uses low-moisture crate timber kiln-dried under 12 percent, matched desiccant sachets per cubic metre, and a sealed vapour barrier around each panel. Singapore buyers should open the crate within 24 hours of arrival and air the panels under a fan for 48 hours before assembly. A written cleaning instruction sheet is included, do not use silicone polish.
What's a safe mattress thickness for a low kids bed used in a Singapore HDB?
For a low frame with a 15 to 20 cm clearance between slats and the floor, pick a 12 to 15 cm pocket-spring or high-resilience foam mattress. Anything over 20 cm thick makes the side rail too tall to climb safely, and Singapore safety guidelines for under-6 sleepers recommend the top of the mattress sits at least 50 cm below the top of the guard rail.
Does MIDHILL deliver kids beds directly to a Singapore condo, and how long does it take?
MIDHILL ships from Foshan by sea to Singapore in roughly 18 to 25 days, with courier hand-off to your Tampines or Bedok lobby. For orders over USD 350 the sea freight is free; under that, expect SGD 60 to 90 in shipping with GST. Lift access must allow a 2.3 m crate, older condos with 1.8 m goods lifts need a staircase carry surcharge of about SGD 80 per floor.
How do I style a European sofa in a small apartment without it looking heavy?
In a compact Singapore living room, raise the sofa on slim 12 cm oak legs so the floor line is visible, the room instantly reads bigger. Pick a 180 cm to 200 cm two-seater rather than a three-seater; anything wider blocks the walkway to the balcony in most HDB layouts. Keep two cushions in beige oak tones and one in navy walnut for warmth, and tuck a 140 cm x 70 cm bench fully underneath to free the centre of the rug.
What rug size works under a kids bed in a small HDB bedroom?
For a single bed in a 9 sqm HDB room, a 140 cm x 200 cm rug placed two-thirds under the bed and extending 30 cm past the side feels intentional without crowding the corridor. Avoid rugs that run wall-to-wall under a kids bed, they trap moisture and are hard to lift for cleaning. Pick a low-pile wool or cotton, the 1 to 1.5 cm pile stays flat under foot traffic.
How do I style a Post-modern armchair in a small apartment without it clashing?
Post-modern shapes are loud, so in a 70 sqm Bedok flat the safe move is one sculptural armchair plus three quiet pieces. Anchor it on a 200 cm x 300 cm rug so the curve reads as a deliberate island, and back it with a plain beige oak console rather than a patterned wall. A 2-seater Post-modern nightstand in the same finish ties the bedroom back without buying a matching sofa.
Are MIDHILL finishes safe for a child who touches the bed rail every night?
MIDHILL uses nitrocellulose lacquer on vertical pieces and cross-linked polyurethane on high-touch horizontal surfaces such as the top rail, because horizontal wear needs a tougher film. Both are cured before crating and off-gas for 14 days in the Foshan workshop. In Singapore, air the bed in a ventilated room for 72 hours after delivery; a written cleaning instruction sheet ships with every order and bans silicone polish.
What's the warranty on a MIDHILL kids bed, and what voids it?
MIDHILL gives a 10-year structural warranty, 2-year surface warranty, and lifetime refinishing. Warranty claims are almost always traced to cleaning, not use: abrasive cream cleaners, high-pH degreasers, silicone polishes, standing water on end-grain edges, and a hair dryer held 10 cm from the lacquer will all void the surface clause. Keep the printed cleaning sheet that ships with the crate, you need it for any future claim.
Will a solid wood kids bed survive a Jurong East room with no air-conditioning?
A non-aircon Jurong East room can hit RH 80 to 85 percent during the December monsoon, which is the danger zone for solid wood. Choose a bed with kiln-dried timber under 12 percent moisture content and apply a fresh coat of hard wax oil every 18 months. Position the bed 20 cm away from the external wall, run a small dehumidifier set to 60 percent RH, and never wipe the frame with a wet cloth.
What cushion colour pairs with a navy walnut loveseat in a small condo?
Navy walnut is dense and cool, so cushions should warm it up without fighting the wood grain. Pick two in stone beige and one in burnt ochre or muted terracotta; this keeps the palette tight and lets the loveseat stay the focal point. Avoid pure white, it reads clinical against the navy, and skip bright primary colours which turn the loveseat into a stage prop within a year.
How wide should the delivery path be for a kids bed going into a Bedok condo?
Measure the goods lift first. Newer Bedok condos have a 1.5 m wide, 2.4 m deep lift with a 1.8 m door, which takes a fully crated kids bed. Older blocks need the panel broken down to under 95 cm wide because the door frame is only 0.85 m. A staircase carry surcharge of about SGD 80 per floor applies if the lift fails inspection; the delivery team will refuse to force a panel.
What floor lamp height works beside a low kids bed in a HDB bedroom?
For a 35 cm tall frame, the lamp shade should sit 90 to 100 cm from the floor, roughly 60 cm above the mattress so a child reading cannot reach the bulb. Use an LED bulb under 7W with a warm 2700K tone; cool 4000K makes light oak look grey. Place the lamp base 20 cm behind the bed edge to avoid ankle bumps during midnight toilet trips in a tight HDB room.
Can I get a beige oak queen bed custom-sized for a Singapore feature wall?
Yes, a beige oak queen bed can be sized between standard 152 cm x 191 cm and a generous 180 cm x 200 cm. MIDHILL's Lecong showroom needs five working days to reach a specification from your dimension schedule, and your Singapore ceiling height plus air-con position should be on the drawing. Expect a 10 to 15 percent upcharge for non-standard sizes, with the same 10-year structural warranty.
What's the first thing to buy when furnishing a small kids room in a Singapore HDB?
Start with the bed, because everything else is sized to the bed footprint and the wall it sits against. In a typical 9 sqm HDB kids room, a 90 cm x 190 cm single frees 50 cm of walkway, while a 120 cm x 190 cm small double kills the corridor. Buy the bed first, then the wardrobe depth and curtain drop follow automatically; buying the wardrobe first almost always forces a smaller, uglier bed.
How do I clean a light oak kids bed without damaging the lacquer?
Dust weekly with a dry microfibre cloth, then wipe monthly with a barely damp cloth and a pH-neutral wood soap diluted 1:10. Never spray cleaner directly on the lacquer, and never use silicone polish, Pledge, or magic erasers; these are the three fastest ways to void the 2-year surface warranty. Blot spills within 10 minutes and dry the edge with a soft cloth to stop water wicking into the end grain.
What interior style pairs best with a light oak kids bed in a modern Malaysian condo?
Light oak suits Japandi, Korean minimal, and modern Malaysian condo themes equally well, but the supporting pieces decide which direction it leans. Pair it with rattan and linen for Japandi, a single curved floor lamp and pale plaster walls for Korean minimal, or batik-print cushions and a dark walnut console for modern Malaysian. Mixing all three at once is the most common mistake Singapore buyers make, and it muddies the oak tone within a season.
Where does MIDHILL pack a kids bed so the panels do not arrive chipped in Singapore?
Export crates are engineered for stacking compression, racking, edge impact, and point loads. Vertical panels ride in padded slots so the polished faces never touch; the crate base is rigid plywood, not cardboard, which matters more than extra foam thickness. Desiccant is matched to cargo volume, and a vapour barrier seals the timber against the 85 percent RH Singapore sea freight humidity. Photo batch records are available on request.
Is a 2-seater Post-modern nightstand worth it for a small kids room, or does it steal too much space?
A 2-seater Post-modern nightstand, around 90 cm wide, works in a kids room only if the bed is a small single and the wall opposite is empty. It doubles as a reading ledge and toy tray, which actually saves space versus a separate shelf. In a 7 sqm room it is too bulky, push it into a 9 sqm or larger layout, and pick one with a 35 cm clearance underneath so a storage basket slides in cleanly.
How much does a queen bed cost in Singapore for a small HDB bedroom?
A solid wood queen bed frame in Singapore typically retails between S$1,400 and S$3,200 before GST, depending on whether you pick rubberwood, ash, or walnut. In Tampines or Punggol HDBs, measure your door (usually 0.9 m wide) and lift first, since most queen crates arrive at 215 cm long. Add 9% GST at checkout and check if delivery above the second storey is included.
Is Nordic bed furniture worth it for a humid Singapore bedroom?
Nordic bed furniture in light oak or ash works well in Singapore if the maker kiln-dries the timber to 8-10% moisture and seals it with cross-linked polyurethane on horizontal surfaces. In a Jurong East flat with no afternoon sun, expect minor seasonal movement of 1-2 mm. Pair it with a dehumidifier set to 55% RH and the bed holds its colour and joints for years.
Where to find an accent chair for family with kids that won't tip easily?
Look for an accent chair with a base width of at least 65 cm, solid wood legs (not flat metal discs), and a seat depth under 55 cm so kids can climb down safely. In a Tampines HDB, skip swivel bases; they trap small fingers. Faux leather or performance weave covers wipe clean better than linen when little hands carry sticky snacks from the kitchen.
How do I pair a light oak Japandi kids bed with curtains in a Jurong East flat?
Avoid bright white linen; it yellows fast under Singapore UV and fights the warm oak. Pick stone-washed cotton in oat, greige, or sage at 140 cm wide, hung 3 cm above the floor to deter dust mites. Keep pleats double, lining included, so morning sun in a west-facing Jurong flat does not bleach the fabric within a year.
Can an L-shape dining chair for dining room use survive a Singapore HDB family?
Yes, if the L-shape dining chair for dining room use has a solid wood corner block (not just dowels) and a fabric rated 30,000 Martindale rubs. In a Punggol HDB, mind your 90 cm corridor when pulling out; choose a chair depth of 48 cm, not 55 cm. Add felt pads so daily scraping on vinyl does not chew the front legs by month six.
What curtain colour pairs with a Scandinavian light oak kids bed in a Singapore condo?
Skip the obvious white. Pick dusty sage, oat, or a muted terracotta so the oak's yellow undertones look intentional rather than tired. Use 100% blackout lining; west-facing Bedok condos get punishing afternoon light. Hang the rod 15 cm below the ceiling and 20 cm past the window frame so the room reads taller, which a low kid's bed benefits from visually.
Where to view oversized American country furniture before buying in Singapore?
Oversized American country furniture like a 220 cm farmhouse dining table usually needs a 1.2 m wide corridor turn and a service lift booking in newer condos. In Punggol or Jurong HDBs, the staircase void often blocks the path; request a dry-run measurement sheet from the seller. Confirm the crate dimensions, not just the assembled piece, before paying the deposit.
How do I clean a solid wood kids bed so the warranty actually holds?
Never use silicone polish, Magic Eraser, or acidic cleaners; they are the top warranty-claim triggers and the maker can refuse the claim. Wipe with a damp microfibre cloth along the grain, dry immediately, and lift any standing water near the edge within 30 seconds. A written cleaning instruction ships inside the crate; keep it with your warranty card.
Will a MIDHILL solid wood kids bed survive Singapore humidity without mould?
MIDHILL, a Foshan solid wood maker since 2008, kiln-dries timber and packs export crates with low-moisture timber battens, desiccant matched to crate volume, and a vapour barrier. Still, open the crate within 48 hours of arrival in Tampines and wipe panels with a dry cloth before assembly. The 10-year structural warranty covers joints and cracking, not surface mould from ignored packaging.
What interior style pairs best with a Korean minimal kids bed in a small Singapore room?
Korean minimal pairs naturally with low-profile beds under 35 cm clearance, plain white walls, and one warm wood tone (oak, not walnut). Skip heavy curtains and patterned rugs; they fight the clean lines. Add a single boucle cushion, one cylindrical bolster, and an oak peg rail. In a 3 x 3 m Punggol bedroom, this reads calm without feeling sterile.
What size desk do I need for a 7-year-old in Singapore HDB?
For a child around 115-125 cm tall, a 110 cm wide x 55 cm deep desk works in a typical 3-room HDB room. Height should adjust between 52-58 cm so elbows sit at 90 degrees. Allow 60 cm clearance behind the chair for corridor access. Solid wood tops like those from MIDHILL hold up to daily humidity swings in Punggol or Tampines flats better than MDF.
Will a kids bed fit through my HDB lift and corridor?
Standard HDB passenger lifts measure 1.1 m wide x 1.4 m deep with a 2.1 m door. Most kids beds below 200 cm length clear the lift upright, but L-shape or bunk beds may need to tilt. Corridors in older blocks like Bedok run 1.2 m wide, so measure diagonally. Check the headboard height against lift door clearance before delivery day.
Is Japandi bed frame furniture worth it for a small bedroom?
Japandi frames suit 9-12 sqm HDB bedrooms because the low 80-90 cm headboard keeps the ceiling feeling taller, important in Jurong East 4-room flats with 2.7 m heights. Light oak or ash finishes pair with off-white walls (Dulux 30YY 83/026). Avoid bulky American country styles that eat 30 cm extra depth. The horizontal lines also match standard 1.2 m curtain drops.
How much should I spend on a solid wood kids bed in SGD?
Solid rubberwood kids beds start around S$550 for single size, while walnut or ash reach S$1,400-S$2,200 in Singapore retail. Budget S$80-S$120 for delivery up to 4 stairs. A 9 percent GST applies on the full price. Check whether the 10-year structural warranty covers bed slats, as these take the most wear over 8-10 years of use.
Can a kids bed survive Singapore humidity without warping?
Solid wood moves with humidity, but kiln-dried rubberwood or ash with cross-linked polyurethane finish holds shape across 60-90 percent RH. Keep the bed 15 cm from exterior walls in Tampines or Punggol corner units. Use a dehumidifier set to 65 percent RH in bedrooms. MIDHILL's 10-year structural warranty covers joint failure from humidity cycling when care instructions are followed.
What rug size works under a kids bed in a HDB room?
A rug should extend 60 cm beyond the bed on the open sides, so for a standard 90 x 200 cm kids bed choose at least 170 x 240 cm. This gives a warm landing spot in air-con rooms (floor temps drop to 22-23 degrees). Stick to low-pile wool or polypropylene in Singapore to prevent mould. Avoid jute, which traps humidity.
How wide is a standard shoe cabinet and how many pairs fit?
Standard shoe cabinet depths range 30-35 cm to clear adult shoes, widths per compartment sit 15-18 cm. A 80 cm wide 2-tier unit holds 12-16 pairs, while 120 cm wide 3-tier versions hold 20-24 pairs. For HDB entryways in Punggol or Jurong, keep total height under 120 cm so it clears corridor mirror sightlines. Add 5 cm rear ventilation gap.
Can I order an American king bed from Canada to Singapore?
An American king measures 193 x 203 cm, larger than Singapore's super king at 183 x 198 cm. Crate weight runs 45-55 kg and the rigid base matters more than panel thickness. MIDHILL's export crates are engineered for stacking compression and racking, plus desiccant matched to cargo volume. Sea freight to Singapore takes 18-25 days plus GST on declared value.
Is green ash wood good for a king bed frame?
Green ash has a Janka hardness of 1,320 lbf, denser than rubberwood (960 lbf), so it resists scratches from kids climbing. The grain shows strong cathedral patterns, suiting Scandinavian interiors common in Punggol Waterway terrace homes. Ash moves less than oak in humidity, taking 5-6 percent moisture variance. Expect S$2,200-S$2,800 for an ash king frame in Singapore.