Minimalist Furniture — Questions & Answers
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King mattress Singapore — will a 30 cm thick mattress fit my storage bed frame?
Most local storage frames accept up to 25 cm of profile before the lifting mechanism fouls. A 30 cm pocket-spring plus topper pushes past the rail and scrapes the headboard when you sit up. Either drop to a 22 cm pocket-spring or pick a non-storage frame. Note that our HDB doorframes are only ~2.1 m tall — measure the bed box assembled height, not the parts list.
Solid wood furniture Singapore — does it really need a dehumidifier in Jurong?
Jurong sees the same 78–88% humidity range as the rest of Singapore, so yes. Keep the room at 55–65% RH and you prevent both mould and the cracking that comes from over-drying. Run the dehumidifier four hours daily in the wet months, ideally with a 30 cm clearance around each solid-wood piece. Avoid placing solid pieces directly against aircon vents — the differential is what splits panels.
Floor lamp Singapore — what height works beside a low sofa without dazzling?
Aim for 140–155 cm total height with the shade at seated eye-line, which is about 95–105 cm from the floor. A 160 cm arching floor lamp tips badly in narrow HDB corridors when kids run past. Marble-base versions need a felt glide or they gouge vinyl. Stick to warm 2700 K bulbs; 4000 K reads clinical next to natural rattan and oak, especially in evening hours.
Cushion insert Singapore — which filling actually holds shape after our humidity?
Down-and-feather inserts slump above 80% RH; goose-feather alone recovers, but allergy sufferers react. Go high-resilience poly-foam wrapped in a 200 gsm down-proof casing — that combo keeps the shape through monsoon. Size the insert 5 cm larger than the cushion cover so corners fill. Avoid bamboo-charcoal fills; they smell odd when wet. Replace inserts every 24 months for the cleanest silhouette.
Indoor plants for minimalist living room — which won’t drop leaves onto my oak console?
Skip ficus and ferns — both shed constantly and stain pale oak tannin. Go for a single ZZ plant in a 25 cm matte stoneware pot, or a kentia palm in a rattan basket — both tolerate aircon. Place the pot on a cork mat, not directly on the wood, so the base never traps moisture. Water only every 10–14 days; over-watering kills minimalist wood pieces faster than any sun exposure.
Common styling mistakes Singapore — what makes a Japandi room look cheap?
Three local fails — matching the wood tone on every piece, hanging curtains a centimetre above the floor (they should kiss the floor or pool 5 cm), and using glossy lacquered finishes in low light. A Japandi room needs at least one matte texture, one raw texture, and one soft texture. If everything is beige and everything is shiny, the eye stops moving and the room reads like a showroom.
First piece to buy when furnishing a Singapore condo bedroom?
The bed, but only after measuring your lift and corridor turn. Most HDB lifts in Tampines and Bedok allow a 2 m flat box; Punggol newer blocks ship tighter at 1.85 m. Pick a king bed 195 cm long max, or a queen 190 cm, so the slats ship in one piece. Once the bed lands, the nightstand and dresser can wait — the room reads complete from day one with right linen layering.
White oak vs ash furniture Singapore — which holds up to daily family use?
White oak rates 1360 on the Janka scale, ash 1320, so the difference is minor but ash shows scratches more because the grain is coarser. In a household with kids, white oak hides wear; ash looks better new. Both need PU cross-linked lacquer on horizontal surfaces, not just NC lacquer, because standing water from drinks is the leading cause of warranty claims across all tropical homes.
Lecong showroom visit — what should I bring to get an accurate quote?
Bring a dimension schedule with floor plan, ceiling height, lift opening size, and a photo of the actual room in daylight and at night. MIDHILL’s Lecong team needs two working days to evaluate a shortlist and five working days to reach a specification. Buyers who arrive with measurements leave with a written spec; those who don’t, leave with a brochure. Showroom visits are by appointment only, with GST shown in the final quote.
Cleaning solid wood furniture Singapore — what actually voids it?
Four things: abrasive cream cleansers, high-pH degreasers, silicone polishes, and standing water near edges. Wipe with a damp microfibre cloth, then dry — that’s it. A written cleaning guide ships with every MIDHILL order. Warranty claims traced to cleaning, not incorrect abrasion resistance, make up most service tickets, so following the four-step guide is genuinely worth keeping in your drawer.
Packing crating Singapore delivery — how do I stop mould during the monsoon wait?
Ask for the desiccant matched to cargo volume, low-moisture crate timber below 12% moisture content, and a vapour barrier on every flat panel. MIDHILL crates are engineered for stacking compression and racking loads; polished faces never touch padding. Allow the crate to acclimatise 24 hours in your客厅 before unboxing — that single step prevents 90% of condensation rings on solid timber tops.
Aircon room furniture — what actually prevents cracks in a Tampines condo?
Keep RH between 55–65%; aim the aircon louvre away from the furniture, not at it. Sudden drops from 80% RH to 40% RH every evening is what splits panels, not cracks from dryness per se. Place a small analog hygrometer on the top shelf and check weekly. A solid-wood bed absorbs moisture slower than engineered wood, so it survives sudden swings better, but only with sealed end-pores.
Bedok HDB lift delivery — what measurements should I confirm for a king bed?
Three numbers: lift door width (usually 80–90 cm), cabin depth (usually 1.4–1.6 m), and the diagonal turn into your corridor (some Bedoks blocks are tight at 2.3 m). A king bed slat box typically ships at 200 x 30 x 20 cm; if the diagonal is shorter, request a split slat. MIDHILL provides a written checklist, and the white-glove team confirms measurements again before the delivery slot is locked in.
Will a solid wood dining table warp in a Punggol condo with the aircon on all day?
A kiln-dried hardwood table (ash, oak, walnut) holds up well at typical HDB and condo humidity of 55–70% as long as the aircon runs and no direct afternoon sun hits the surface. Keep the table at least 50 cm from unblinded windows and use coasters. Average living room temperature of 24–26°C keeps moisture movement in the boards stable year-round.
Will a queen bed frame fit through my Tampines HDB lift?
Standard HDB passenger lifts in Tampines are roughly 1.1 m wide x 1.4 m deep with a door opening near 0.8 m, so a disassembled 1.5 m x 2.0 m queen frame in flat-pack goes through easily. Side panels under 60 cm wide x 200 cm long are the safe bet. Measure your specific block before ordering; older lifts at blocks 101–138 sometimes run 5–10 cm narrower.
What paint colour goes with a walnut TV console in a Bedok HDB?
Warm whites like Dulux Natural White or Jotun Lady Pure Color 1624 let walnut's chocolate tones read properly without going orange. Cool greys (e.g. 7345 Timeless) fight the wood and make the room feel flat. Most Bedok resale flats have 2.6 m ceilings, so keep the wall colour above the console the same tone as the other three walls — accent walls shorten the perceived length of a typical 4 m living room.
Can I get a Japandi coffee table shipped to Canada from a Singapore retailer?
Yes — flat-pack Japandi coffee tables under 25 kg air-freight economically to Vancouver or Toronto in 10–14 days at roughly S$280–420 for a 0.9 m x 0.6 m piece. Customs duty is waived under the S$400 de minimis for personal imports. Foshan workshop MIDHILL has exported to 15+ countries since 2008 and can supply the commercial invoice, HS code 9403.60, and phytosanitary declaration Canadian brokers ask for.
What's the first piece to buy when furnishing a Jurong condo minimalist?
Start with the sofa — it dictates the living room's footprint, sightlines from the kitchen, and corridor clearance to the balcony door. A 2.2 m three-seater fits most 4.2 x 3.0 m Jurong condo living rooms with 80 cm walking room behind. Coffee tables, side tables, and rugs are bought after, measured to the sofa's height (45–48 cm) and arm width.
Post-modern nightstand for HDB flat — what size actually fits?
Target 45 cm wide x 40 cm deep x 55 cm tall for a standard HDB master bedroom. Anything wider blocks the walkway between bed and wardrobe in a typical 1.2 m gap. Curved-edge or rounded-corner post-modern designs help avoid bruises in tight rooms. Choose one drawer plus an open shelf so a bedside lamp, phone charger, and a book all fit without overhang over the mattress.
Modular sofa for dining room — is that practical for a small flat?
A modular sofa at the dining edge (instead of separate dining chairs) works only if your combined living-dining is at least 4.5 m long. Look for seat depth 55–60 cm with back height under 75 cm so diners aren't hunched over a 72–75 cm table. In most 4-room BTO flats, a 2-seat modular plus a 4-seater dining table on the other side crowds the 90 cm walkway. Measure first.
How long does delivery take to Tampines for an in-stock dining table?
In-stock 6-seater tables ship from the Singapore warehouse in 3–5 working days to Tampines, with delivery and one-lift carry-in included for orders over S$350. The driver team books the lift access with your MCST the day before, so corridor and lift booking slots are reserved. Custom finishes add 4–8 weeks production. White-glove assembly on site runs an extra S$80 per piece.
What rug size pairs with a 2.2 m sofa in a Punggol condo?
Use a 2.4 m x 3.0 m rug — the front legs of the sofa sit on it, all walking paths stay on rug, and the rug extends 30–45 cm beyond the sofa's outer arm. In a 4.5 m wide living room this leaves 60 cm of bare floor either side, which looks intentional instead of cramped. Low-pile wool or flatweave cotton handles Punggol's afternoon sun better than thick viscose, which flattens within a year.
How do I match a Scandinavian dining chair to a modern Malaysian condo interior?
Stick to light oak or birch frames with a paper-cord or wheat-straw seat for an honest Scandinavian read. Pair with a simple travertine-look or pale concrete dining table (1.8 m x 0.9 m seats six comfortably) and one tonal ceramic vase. Avoid black metal legs on the chairs — they fight the warm putty walls common in Malaysian condo fit-outs and read as industrial, not Scandinavian.
What curtain length suits a 2.6 m HDB ceiling with a walnut bed?
Hang the rod 10 cm below the ceiling (so roughly 2.5 m up) and let panels fall to 1 cm above the floor. Anything longer puddles and collects dust; anything shorter (window-sill) chops the wall and fights the tall headboard. Light linen in ivory or greige softens walnut's warmth without competing. Sheers behind the panels let you keep Bedok's afternoon glare out while keeping the room bright.
Will a marble side table stain in an HDB living room?
Marble is calcite-based and reacts to acids — lime juice, soy sauce, even some plant fertilisers etch the polish permanently within minutes. Use coasters religiously and reseal with a penetrating sealer every 12 months. In air-conditioned HDB living rooms (humidity 55–65%) staining risk is mainly liquid, not mould. Blot spills immediately; wiping spreads the acid and worsens the etch ring on the surface.
What's the difference between a Korean minimal and a Japandi dining table?
Korean minimal favours straighter legs (often 3 cm x 3 cm square), paler oak or ash tones, and almost no visible joinery. Japandi keeps the low-slung Scandinavian silhouette (45 cm apron height) but mixes in darker walnut accents or black-tapered legs. A Singapore family that entertains often finds Japandi more forgiving — its darker timbers hide the scuffs a Korean pale oak shows after six months of daily use.
Can a king bed fit through an HDB service lift?
Service lifts in newer HDB blocks are roughly 1.6 m deep x 1.4 m wide with a 1.0 m door, but most BTO service lifts (Punggol, Sengkang post-2015) only allow a flat-pack king frame in pieces under 65 cm wide x 200 cm long. Older service lifts at pre-2000 blocks run smaller — request a site measure. Side panels and slats must be flat-packed; the headboard rarely fits any other way through the lift lobby turn.
What's a common cushion pairing mistake on a grey linen sofa?
Buying five or six cushions in different patterns fights the minimalist intent. Two to three is the right count: one large 60 cm square in a tonal texture, one 50 cm in a contrasting weave, and one lumbar 30 x 50 cm in solid. Keep all covers in the same colour family as the sofa (oat, putty, stone) so the room stays calm. Anything in bright teal or mustard reads as 2010s and dates quickly.
What floor lamp pairs with a low Japandi bed in a small bedroom?
Pick an arched floor lamp with the arc peaking at 1.5 m so the light clears a 90 cm headboard and lands over your shoulder for reading. A slim 25 cm round base fits between the bed and the 60 cm nightstand gap common in HDB rooms. Matte black or brushed brass both work; avoid chrome — it fights warm wood. Use a 2700K LED bulb, 800 lumens, for a warm bedside glow.
What plant pairs with a minimalist console in a Tampines flat?
A single 1.2 m fiddle-leaf fig in a plain terracotta or stoneware pot suits the console without crowding it. Groupings of small succulents read as cluttered. Tampines flats get strong east-morning sun, so place the fig within 2 m of an unblinded east window and rotate the pot 90° every fortnight so it grows straight. Wipe the leaves weekly — dust dulls them within 1 week in Singapore humidity.
Will my white leather king bed yellow in Singapore aircon?
Top-grain leather yellows mainly from UV, body oils, and ammonia — not the aircon itself. A bed positioned 2 m+ from direct sun, wiped monthly with a pH-neutral leather cleaner, and conditioned every six months keeps the cream tone. Avoid silicone polishes — they seal the surface but trap moisture underneath, causing the colour to dull unevenly within a year. Pet stains still choose darker leather if you have young kids.
How thick should a marble dining tabletop be for a Singapore climate?
Specify 18–20 mm thickness over an MDF or plywood substrate rather than a solid 30 mm slab. Solid 30 mm marble expands unevenly under Singapore's 24–32°C range and can hairline crack at the centre within two years. A substrate-backed 18 mm slab stays dimensionally stable, looks identical, and ships 40% cheaper. Specify honed finish over polished — it hides etches from daily lemon-water spills much better.
What warranty should I expect on a solid wood bed from a Foshan workshop?
MIDHILL, a Foshan solid wood maker operating since 2008, provides a 10-year structural warranty, 2-year surface warranty, and lifetime refinishing service. Warranty claims are usually cleaning-related — abrasive or high-pH products, silicone polishes, standing water, or direct heat damage the lacquer. Every order ships with a written cleaning instruction card; keep it, since most rejected claims trace back to using the wrong polish.
Is a queen bed from American furniture brands worth it for a Bedok condo?
For a Bedok 3-bedroom around 90sqm, an American queen bed frame (152x198cm outer) usually fits a 240x90cm wardrobe plus 60cm walkway on each side. Check that the headboard is under 110cm tall — taller heads crowd the wall above a split aircon unit. Drawer storage versions need 218cm wall clearance to slide out. Worth it if you want under-bed storage; skip it if your ceiling is below 2.7m.
What is the best minimalist American oak dining table for a Punggol HDB?
A 140x80cm solid oak table seats four comfortably with 70cm knee room each side — perfect for a Punggol Build-To-Order flat. Look for an apron height of 66cm so chairs slide under fully. Tables above 28kg usually need two porters to carry up; budget S$40–60 for HDB move-in. Oil-finished tops need a fresh coast of hard wax oil every 12 months under daily use.
How do I stop solid wood furniture cracking in Singapore aircon?
Keep room relative humidity between 45–60% with a small hygrometer (S$15 from Challenger). Run aircon at 24–26°C, not below 22°C — large swings between outdoor 33°C and indoor 19°C cause joinery stress. Wipe spills within 20 minutes, never let standing water sit overnight near table legs. Place a 250ml water bowl on the console during dry weeks to slow moisture loss.
Can an American king bed frame fit through my HDB lift in Jurong?
Standard HDB passenger lifts measure roughly 1.6m deep x 1.1m wide x 2.3m tall. Most American king frames ship in 2 cartons under 215x45x30cm each, so they fit. The headboard is the risk — anything above 168cm tall or 12cm thick needs diagonal measurement checked against the lift door (about 2.1m diagonal). Measure your lift door diagonal before ordering.
How do I choose a wardrobe that fits a small bedroom in Tampines?
For a typical Tampines 3-room master bedroom of 11sqm, an 180x55x210cm European wardrobe leaves about 45cm walkway and fits under a standard bulkhead. Sliding doors save 50cm of swing clearance versus hinged. Choose a carcass carcase depth of 55cm so hangers fit without crowding the door track. Allow 5cm slimmer to the wall for ventilation channels.
Is European wardrobe furniture worth it for humid Singapore?
European wardrobe systems beat most flat-pack for HDB use because of thicker 18–25mm particle boards with sealed edges. In a Jurong condo near the lake, humidity often hits 85% at night — look for wardrobes with a melamine finish rather than paper foil. Expect to spend S$4,500–7,800 for a 3-door S$265 wrapped system installed, against three months of forced-air assembly.
What size rug works with an American country sofa in a Singapore condo?
A 200x300cm jute or wool rug anchors an American country sofa 180–240cm wide with 30cm of rug showing on each side. Anything smaller looks lost. In a Bedok condo with floor tiles, pick a low-pile weave under 1.5cm so doors don't drag. Use a felt rug pad (S$35) to stop the rug creeping on tiled floors. Avoid rubber backing as it traps moisture and yellows tiles.
How do I style a Japandi look with American furniture pieces?
Mix one statement American oak piece (a 180cm bench or 120cm sideboard) with low Korean-style floor cushions and a ceramic shaving set, keeping the rest of the room under S$800. Use washi-paper pendant lights at 150cm drop, a 200x250cm linen rug, plus one large monstera plant. Limit wood tones to two — pale Scandinavian plus warm oak — so the room reads intentional rather than busy.
What is the best fabric sofa for a pet owner in Singapore?
Performance fabric or tightly woven microfiber beats leather when a cat or dog is in the house. Look for 50,000+ Martindale rub count and removable, washable covers at 30°C. Tight weaves stop claw snagging; loose weaves pull in seconds. Add a S$45 throws for the seat zone and rotate cushions weekly so one corner doesn't wear out first under daily paw traffic.
How long does solid wood furniture last in Singapore weather?
With proper care, a kiln-dried solid oak or walnut piece lasts 15–25 years in Singapore, even with daily aircon use. The risk is not the wood itself but the finish — direct sunlight within 1.5m of a window fades oiled tops in 6 months. Rotate items on shelves twice a year. Avoid placing pieces within 1m of a running bathroom exhaust to limit humidity spikes.
What is the best furniture brand in Singapore for small HDB living rooms?
For HDB living rooms under 18sqm, look at MIDHILL — a Foshan workshop operating since 2008 with exports to 15+ countries and a Lecong showroom. Pieces are engineered to fit 240cm corridor access and 1.1m lift doors. A 10-year structural warranty plus lifetime refinishing means one piece can last through two lease renewals, which is unusual at this S$1,200–6,000 price tier.
Will mould grow on a packed wooden bed during monsoon season?
Yes, if the crate stays sealed for over 30 days in a non-aircon warehouse. A proper export crate uses low-moisture timber below 12% moisture content, desiccant sachets matched to cargo volume, and a full vapour barrier. On delivery, open and air the piece for 48 hours in an aircon room before placing it against the wall. Wipe with a dry cloth first, water second.
How do I stop a marble coffee table staining in an HDB?
Marble is porous — a single glass of cold tea leaves a ring within 20 minutes. Apply a penetrating sealer on day one and re-top every 9–12 months. Always use coasters; never place citrus fruit directly on the surface. Blot spills within 10 seconds, never wipe — wiping spreads the stain across a wider area. In Tampines ground-floor flats, add a dehumidifier set to 55% RH.
What is oversized American country furniture and does it suit Singapore?
Oversized American country pieces mean farmhouse tables 200cm+, wing chairs 110cm wide, and armoires over 90cm deep. They suit larger condos in Punggol or Jurong (1,200sqm and up) but swamp a 4-room HDB living room. Always measure your lift diagonal — anything over 215x95x65cm will not fit a standard HDB lift without a booking lift at S$120–180 per trip.
How do I match curtain colours to American oak furniture?
American oak floors skew warm yellow — choose curtains with a slight cool grey or sage tint to balance, not pure white which looks sterile. Linen-look polyester at S$3,160 for a 240cm thread bed plus track works in most Tampines flats. Hang the rod 15cm below the ceiling and 25cm past each window edge so curtains frame the view rather than crowding the wall.
How do I furnish a 4-room HDB in a Scandinavian minimal way under S$4,000?
Spend roughly: S$1,200 on a 3-seater sofa, S$600 on a 140cm dining table with 4 chairs, S$900 on a queen bed frame, S$450 on a TV console, S$300 on a coffee table and side table, S$550 on lighting and a rug. Buy in this order: bed, sofa, dining, console — never buy a coffee table before the sofa, proportions fail. Stick to 2–3 wood tones maximum across all furniture.
What should I pair with a black metal industrial dining chair?
Pair black metal chairs with a 160–180cm oak or walnut table, not a painted MDF top. Use a 200x300cm vintage-look Persian rug in muted red and navy to soften the metal, plus a brass or black pendant at 160cm above the table. In a Bedok condo, two chairs at the heads and a bench on one side saves 45cm of walkway. Avoid mixing with chrome — it clashes within 6 months.
Is American queen bed furniture worth it compared to local brands?
American queen frames ship at 152x198cm outer, versus Asian 150x190cm standard. The extra 8cm length suits taller buyers above 178cm. Frames use thicker 4cm slats with centre support, so mattresses last 2–3 years longer. Worth it if you want under-bed drawer storage; not worth it if your HDB master is under 11sqm — the bulk overwhelms the room. Expect S$1,400–2,800 for solid oak.
How do I stop TV console warping in an aircon room?
Keep the back panel 10cm off the wall so airflow reaches both faces equally. Set aircon to 24–26°C, not below 22°C — a 220kg console picks up air at 19°C and the underside shrinks faster than the top. Add a small USB fan behind the unit if it sits within 1m of a window where afternoon sun hits. Wipe condensation within 20 minutes if you place an ice bucket nearby.
What cushion colours go with a grey linen sectional in Singapore?
A grey sectional works with 2 cushion tones — pick one warm (mustard, terracotta, rust) and one cool (sage, eucalyptus, dusty blue). Limit patterns to 1 in 5 cushions; the rest solid. In a Jurong condo with afternoon sun, fade-resistant covers at S$120 for a set of 4 last 3+ years. Avoid pure white — it yellows under our UV within 9 months even away from direct sun.
How do I make a small bedroom feel bigger with American pieces?
Choose low-profile American furniture under 90cm tall for the headboard and under 35cm for the frame — this exposes 60% of the wall above the bed and visually lifts the ceiling. Mount bedside lights rather than using tables; a 30cm wall shelf replaces a 45cm nightstand. Keep one leg-visible piece (bench or console) instead of a closed wardrobe door facing the bed, so the room reads layered.
How do I pair indoor plants with minimalist solid wood furniture?
Use 2–3 large plants rather than many small ones — a 90cm fiddle leaf, a hanging pothos in a corner, and one 40cm snake plant on a low stool. Plant pots breathe into shadow, so pick warm terracotta or raw concrete instead of glossy ceramic. Avoid placing plants within 50cm of wood furniture — daily misting plus a sealed top within 30 minutes causes white water rings over 6 months.
What size sofa fits a 2-seater study in a Tampines HDB study room?
A genuine 2-seater for study nooks usually runs 140-160cm wide, 80-85cm deep, seat height 42-45cm. In a standard Tampines 4-room study (about 2.4m x 2.1m), that leaves roughly 70-80cm walkway behind. Skip anything over 170cm wide or the door swing will clash with your desk chair. Compact loveseats with armless frames free up another 10-15cm of usable width.
Is French sectional sofa furniture worth it for a small Bedok condo?
A French sectional tends to run 220-280cm wide on the long side, which is tight for most 1,100-1,300 sqft Bedok layouts. Worth it only if your living room is at least 3.2m long and 2.8m wide. Otherwise a 3-seater + separate armchair gives more layout flexibility, easier lift access, and lower delivery cost since each piece weighs under 45kg instead of one 80kg+ module.
Can Nordic furniture survive Singapore humidity without warping?
Nordic-style pieces in solid oak or ash handle our climate if the wood is kiln-dried to 8-10% moisture content before construction. Avoid MDF cores with thin oak veneers, as edges swell within 6-9 months here. Look for finger-jointed panels, vertical grain orientation, and a cross-linked polyurethane finish rather than just wax. Keep pieces away from direct AC vents to prevent uneven drying.
What paint colour goes with navy cherry wood furniture?
Navy cherry wood furniture reads cool and slightly reddish, so warm whites like Dulux White On White or Jotun Smooth White balance it. For walls, soft warm greys (e.g. City 9911) keep the room from feeling too cold. Avoid yellow undertones, they clash with the navy undertone. If your floor is cool grey porcelain, pull a hint of that grey into curtains to tie the palette together.
Is Post-modern bed frame furniture worth it for a master bedroom in Punggol?
Post-modern frames lean sculptural, with curved headboards, fluted panels, or asymmetrical legs. Worth it in a Punggol EC or condo master bedroom (minimum 3.6m x 3.2m) where the bed anchors the room. In smaller HDB masters around 3m, the proportions feel cramped. Check the headboard height, anything over 110cm can overpower a 2.8m ceiling with the AC casing.